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It's time to separate out the myths from the facts. This Group will be a place where we'll post updates on our latest myth vs fact campaign points and also a place for you to post what you're hearing - as it seems that people are going to constantly be putting out rumors and lies about what health reform entails Also be sure to visit http://www.healthactionnow.org to learn more about the myths and facts - and take action to support health reform!
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foxxytrot said:
on November 21, 2009 08:41 AM ET
edited on November 21, 2009 08:43 AM ET

On Nov. 13 Pascrell highlighted some of the key points in the Act for City seniors during the chapter's meeting, held at the Richfield Christian Reformed Church.

Pascrell spoke before a group of about 70 seniors who listened attentively as he discussed some of the points in the Act including early prevention, mental health, Medicare and what he called "improved safety."

 

Congressman Bill Pascrell discussed the Affordable Health Care for America Act with members of AARP 4192 members.

here it is

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Post #5
Schreff said:
on November 21, 2009 03:33 PM ET

Hypocrisy of the worst kind,  Another example of how seniors are propagandized and told part truths and lies.

 

Congressman talks healthcare with Clifton AARP
Friday, November 20, 2009
Clifton Journal
STAFF WRITER
 

CLIFTON – Just one week after the AARP publicly endorsed the Affordable Health Care for America Act, passed by the House on Nov. 7, Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ-8) spoke to members of the organization's local Chapter 4192.

On Nov. 13 Pascrell highlighted some of the key points in the Act for City seniors during the chapter's meeting, held at the Richfield Christian Reformed Church.

Pascrell spoke before a group of about 70 seniors who listened attentively as he discussed some of the points in the Act including early prevention, mental health, Medicare and what he called "improved safety."

The crowd cheered Pascrell when he said, "The best thing — this plan brings down prescription drug cost."

"The reform bill will result in lower overall prescription drug costs for seniors, according to non-partisan Congressional Budget Office," Pascrell said, adding that currently, seniors are likely to take less medication throughout the year to maintain coverage and, consequently, put their bodies and minds at greater health risk.

Pascrell said the plan will also fill Medicare Part D's "doughnut hole." He said now there is a coverage gap that forces beneficiaries to pay entirely out-of-pocket for prescription drugs if their annual cost falls between $2,700 and $6,514. He said it should take three to four years to get out of the "doughnut hole," in answer to a senior's question.

Pascrell said he's proud of the legislation he had a hand in crafting, and added that there are "some things in this bill I don't like." The Congressman said he is not a supporter of a single payer government-run public health insurance option, but rather, he believes in competition and that the government ought to be in the competition. Pascrell also said he does not support the status quo of patients acquiring the care they need through a fee per service paradigm. He said he supports value-based purchasing of health care services that "would give health care providers a financial incentive to do a better job."

Pascrell said the bill "takes important first steps" and "is a great start."

During his talk to the seniors, Pascrell said he wanted to clear up misinformation by debunking rumors that health reform will allow bureaucrats to make end-of-life decisions, or that the bill would lead to rationed care or that it would cause Medicare to end.

"We can't afford not to fix [health care]," Pascrell said, stating rising health care costs are increasing the deficit. "If we do nothing, the cost of health care premiums will eat up more and more of your monthly check – and the prescription drug "doughnut hole" won't get fixed."

AARP was founded in 1958 as a nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization that "helps people 50 and over improve the quality of their lives," according to its Web site. AARP has more than 40 million.

The House passed the Affordable Health Care for America Act by 220-215 votes.

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CLIFTON – Just one week after the AARP publicly endorsed the Affordable Health Care for America Act, passed by the House on Nov. 7, Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ-8) spoke to members of the organization's local Chapter 4192.

Congressman Bill Pascrell discussed the Affordable Health Care for America Act with members of AARP 4192 members.

On Nov. 13 Pascrell highlighted some of the key points in the Act for City seniors during the chapter's meeting, held at the Richfield Christian Reformed Church.

Pascrell spoke before a group of about 70 seniors who listened attentively as he discussed some of the points in the Act including early prevention, mental health, Medicare and what he called "improved safety."

The crowd cheered Pascrell when he said, "The best thing — this plan brings down prescription drug cost."

This is the propaganda filled with half truths that is being told our vulnerable seniors. Where is his mention of the Medicare cuts and the terrible impact it will have on Medicare Advantage?????

"The reform bill will result in lower overall prescription drug costs for seniors, according to non-partisan Congressional Budget Office," Pascrell said, adding that currently, seniors are likely to take less medication throughout the year to maintain coverage and, consequently, put their bodies and minds at greater health risk.

Pascrell said the plan will also fill Medicare Part D's "doughnut hole." He said now there is a coverage gap that forces beneficiaries to pay entirely out-of-pocket for prescription drugs if their annual cost falls between $2,700 and $6,514. He said it should take three to four years to get out of the "doughnut hole," in answer to a senior's question.

This is the part where we pay for 4 years and don't receive any benefits until the 4 years are up.  Unfortunately, many of these seniors will be dead by that time..

Pascrell said he's proud of the legislation he had a hand in crafting, and added that there are "some things in this bill I don't like." The Congressman said he is not a supporter of a single payer government-run public health insurance option, but rather, he believes in competition and that the government ought to be in the competition.

Never a mention of tort reform or the selling of insurance across state lines to create competition.  Or no mention of the fact that private insurers, businesses, and others will stop insuring if  it is cheaper to go to the public option.  Thus, making private health insurance a dinosaur in the future.  No mention of keeping your own doc or whether there will be enough health care professionals around to avoid rationing of care and testing.

Pascrell also said he does not support the status quo of patients acquiring the care they need through a fee per service paradigm. He said he supports value-based purchasing of health care services that "would give health care providers a financial incentive to do a better job."

Pascrell said the bill "takes important first steps" and "is a great start."

The first step.  Well, what is the next steps?  The docs bill was one.What is next is a ? but you know that by the time Congress and Obama are done this country will be sharing the wealth with Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and our buddy Chavez.

During his talk to the seniors, Pascrell said he wanted to clear up misinformation by debunking rumors that health reform will allow bureaucrats to make end-of-life decisions, or that the bill would lead to rationed care or that it would cause Medicare to end.

No rationing?  It started already for mammograms and cervical cancer testing.  End of life counceling is in the bill and paid for by the government so don't you think the FED is going to have a lot to say about it?   No, not the end to Medicare but what about medical equipment costing seniors more and Medicare Advantage ending by having such a high cost it will be unaffordable to the millions of seniors who presently have Medicare Advantage.

"We can't afford not to fix [health care]," Pascrell said, stating rising health care costs are increasing the deficit. "If we do nothing, the cost of health care premiums will eat up more and more of your monthly check – and the prescription drug "doughnut hole" won't get fixed."

AARP was founded in 1958 as a nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization that "helps people 50 and over improve the quality of their lives," according to its Web site. AARP has more than 40 million.

We know AARP is a nonpartisan organization that is why their leadership endorsed and contributed to Obama and supported ObamaCare along with SEIU and ACORN .

The House passed the Affordable Health Care for America Act by 220-215 votes.


Post #4
mbaker673 replied to USChange1's Post #3 :
on November 21, 2009 11:45 AM ET

I know its been going on for awhile.  The problem is that "being caused by humans" is only a theory, and they have no records beyond about 130 years that are based on actual FACTS.  The rest of it is based on a theory that they can figure what the temperatures were because of the color of bones in fossils.  That is also just a theory.  Thats why its called junk science. 

Its like saying that Thomas Edison invented Electricity.  No, Electricity was discovered, not invented.  The machines used to generate it are inventions.  The light bulb is an invention.  But the Electricity is simply a discovery.  The only thing we know that is a fact is that Global Climate Change is discovered.


Post #3
USChange1 replied to mbaker673's Post #2 :
on November 21, 2009 11:34 AM ET

How many more years of input do you need 50, 100.  Thats how long this debate has already been going on.


Post #2
mbaker673 replied to alfalfa109's Post #1 :
on November 21, 2009 10:44 AM ET

alfalfa, that is correct.   If it had only good things in it, without government mandates, a public option, and included things like tort reform and allowing insurers to sell across state lines it would actually be something that would be easily passed with support from the people.  They don't care about getting support from the American People.  One day they know that if they continue not creating jobs that people will have to comply or starve.  Its fascism.


Post #1
alfalfa109 said:
on November 21, 2009 09:46 AM ET

We all know that the bill has some good things but do they out weigh the bad? How about the cost, the taxes, the control and regulation. All of the good things of the bill can be accomplished without the 2000+ pages in the bill and the costs.
If you read the bill, and it is not easy, you will find out that we need to start over and get some other input.